The launch of Facebook's Beacon advertising system in November put the social networking site in the middle of a controversy over privacy, as Beacon was criticized for being too aggressive and stealthy in collecting and broadcasting information about users' activities online. For that reason, few people would probably envy the job of Chris Kelly, Facebook's chief privacy officer and the person most responsible for explaining the site's policies to the public.
IDG News Service recently caught up with Kelly for a telephone interview. He answered questions about Beacon, saying the company is happy with it now after some revisions, but acknowledging that the work isn't over, so we may yet see further modifications that address remaining privacy concerns.
He also tackled other hot topics, like the company's efforts to protect minors from sexual predators, and data portability, or the ability for users to move their data between different social networking services. Kelly said Facebook is in favour of data portability in principle, but wary of it in part because of concerns about user privacy. That might surprise the critics who raised red flags over Beacon, but Kelly said there are legitimate concerns about privacy, and security as well, with data portability.
The following is an edited transcript of the conversation:
IDG News Service: There has been a lot of talk recently about data portability, specifically about letting users of social networks export their data to other sites and applications. What's your take on data portability?
Chris Kelly: We've made it clear that we don't have a philosophical problem with data portability. The problem comes in because there are all sorts of privacy and security worries [related to it], and there are a whole bunch of people out there who would gladly attempt to exploit somebody else's personal information if they could get one point of entry into a network, for instance, and try to export as much data as possible.
So we want to make sure there are rules and controls around that to minimize the possibility of something going off. That is a critical part of all of the discussions, and it's something that, in a rush to call for data portability, most proponents haven't effectively considered.
We're trying to make sure that everyone considers that. We joined the Data Portability Workgroup because we want to show that we're serious about having that conversation. But to just say that you can have a completely open system ignores that there are serious privacy and security challenges about that.
IDGNS: So given the privacy, security and legal considerations that need to be taken into account, is a satisfying solution to data portability even possible?
Kelly: Any system needs to reflect the actual preferences of the end-user of the data, and the end possessor of the data is the data subject. At Facebook, we've obviously invested a great deal in building a preference-capturing system around that, and any portability scheme needs to reflect that type of information. We'll press for any data portability scheme to reflect the preferences of data subjects. That's a very important part of building an effective data portability setup.
IDGNS: What's your current position regarding Beacon, which has been such a big source of controversy?
Kelly: We've gotten Beacon to a point where it gives users control over the information they're bringing into Facebook from third-party Web sites and sharing with their friends. The users are coming to understand the technology better.
As Mark [Zuckerberg, Facebook's founder and CEO] has said, we made some mistakes in the launch but we think we've gotten Beacon to a very good point. We think users will have a great deal of comfort with how they share or don't share -- based on their own preferences -- actions on third-party Web sites off Facebook.
IDGNS: Mark Zuckerberg has indicated in recent interviews that Facebook continues to work on and refine Beacon to further address lingering privacy concerns. Is that your understanding?
Kelly: Yes, we learn a lot from user feedback and are constantly working to make the site more effective for our users.
IDGNS: Could you articulate the importance of the bill that New York's Attorney General Andrew Cuomo and state legislative leaders are pushing and that Facebook, among others, is backing?
Kelly: It's very important because it allows us to have unique identifiers that focus on sex offenders that we want to exclude from our site. We've been asking for this type of help from Attorney General Cuomo and some of the other attorneys general.
State legislatures are listening right now and trying to make it required that when people register as sex offenders they record any Internet and online IDs [they have], and to make it a crime to access the Internet using anything besides those identifiers. This is a big assistance to us because it lets us easily check if anybody is trying to sign up with those addresses.
Continued: Social networking safety
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